Last year a received a letter in the mail from Northern Leasing looking for payment on Leasing equipment. I dont have any Business and the info did not make sense. I called them and they put me through the fraud department and told me someone made a lease under my name. they faxed a copy of the lease agreement over 3 thousand worth and told to fill the afedaved, make three signatures and proveided copy of personal ID and they would take care of it. I contacted the police they told me try to resolve it. i gave them a copy of my drivers license library card and signed it and got my lawer to stamp it.
The kept calling for more Identification, i contacted the police again they realized that they are the ones doing the fraud and advice me not to give them any information because they could use it to cause more problems. The Lease agreement only has my name, address and birth date correct. part of Social Insurance number is wrong, bank info is wrong signature is wrong. So i told them many times i will not give u any more info. But every month they call, and i made two big mistake give them information they dont have and give them my work number. I did file a police report last year, i provided police info for them, but officer told me not give them the police report as it has all my personal info. He also told me they can request the police report. I told them and they said our policy doesn't allows to do that. I suggested u know where i am i will meet someone to show id or go to a lawer and show proof of ID. They don't want that they want your personal information. I will be seeing a lawer tomorrow. Mario
My problem is actually with the Canadian Part of this company. More than 2 years ago I stopped using the chaep POS equipment supplied after 4 machines broke in rapid succession; one did not even work out of the box. I refused to accept the last delivery of the equipment and asked that the contract be terminated, even offering a settlement. Instead they chose to ignore my request and bill for services and eqipment not actually supplied for 2+ years, taking money from the commercial bank account of my store. The store itself ceased operation in February 2014, and despite the fact they could not figure out how to terminate a contract thay were able to figure out my home address and now are trying to get me to continue paying for equipment and services not provided. 2 years ago they had a chance to work things out, instead the tokk over $1000.00 for nothing, and now these merchants of greed expect more money. Not from me, and i see by other reports a class action suit may be pending. Count me in.
Beware thieves and his affiliates Senorpay La 819 w. Whittier Blvd Montebello Ca 90640. Maid me initial some paper By Jorge Almestap, which I replied I wasn't interested at this time with credit card machine, next day he showed up with one telling me that he was around the area, that I could check it out,he left and never came back,three months later money missing from my account, talk to branch manager,found the link to senorpay, called them explained to supervisor, wich replied, Jorge it's no longer employee of us, also asked for missing monies, answers were not collecting probably affiliated company Northern leasing systems Inc. Which got contacted from the branch management, they replied they're not collecting from account.that so called contract was voided, two years later I received mail there is a judgment notice from New York city civil court, sended letter to supervisor for authenticity,didn't respond, need help, www. Dca.Lacounty.Gov ,federal government should get involved, to closed down once and for all, yelp d corporation 30000+ complaints...
This company is completely fraudulent and rude to boot. I was approached in Sept, 2013 to reduce " the amount of charges billed to me by credit card companies" in my small business. They said the conversation was being "recorded". The person I spoke with was very friendly and cordial...in the beginning. I received a couple pages to fill out but she said she " already had all my info so just initial in the first highlighted spot and sign in the second" All thru our conversation I repeatedly told them I would use their services but I DID NOT want to change processors. That I was very happy with my currentprocessor. They assured me nothing would change as far as my processor was concerned. They were merely a credit card service provider that contacted small business to make them aware that they could get lower rates and save tyhem money. They said I needed a new machine even tho I owned my current machine. They said my currant machine was obsolete and couldn't be reprogrammed with the new rates. The machine came in just a couple days and looked like it was a throw back to the dinosaur!! I complained that they had sent me old used equipment and a premium price. Then the nastiness started. Got my first bank dstatement and found that my processing had changed to another company and the "new rates and charges" were alot higher. I immediately called the new processor and asked them where they got authorization to take over my account. They said i had signed a lease with them. I tolf them I had not so they faxed over a copy of Northern Leasings agreement....all filled out I might add...the paper that I only had to initial and sign...yep..the girl (Sara) filled it out.. They highlighted the top of the agreement. Northern leasing sent me a Merchants Agreement and told me it was their contract. So in intialling and signing I had inadvertantly signed an agreement to a new processor. I had asked the rep about the header and she blew it off saying that they were a Merchant Service Provider...providing rates and savings for small businesses. I again reiterated the fact that they were not changing my processor and she again assured me..NO. Upon receiving my first bill at the wrong amount by 20$ for the machine and seeing my first statement from the bank I called Northern Leasing. Hmmm...the girl I had spoke with had been moved to another part of the company...no longer available to me. I was given over after several phone calls to Mr. Sherman. I feel I only recieved a call from him because I stopped them from withdrawing from my bank account. What a gem this guy is!! I explained all the fraud to him and ask to cancel. He said I signed an agreement and they would sue me. I told them all of the conversations had been recorded and would back up what I was saying...hmmmnot to be found!! I said I was returning the credit card machine because they had lied and the machine was older then the one I already owned. Mr. Sherman said I could not return the machine and if I didn't stick to the agreement I would have to pay 3,000$ for the machine. I returned it to the person who sent it to me at Northern Leasing in Addison, Tx and still have the FedEx invoice to prove that. Mr Sherman said that was the wrong place to send it and to get it back or pay for the machine. I tried to get it back but they never returned it to me. I tried again to reach the place where I sent it and found that the number is disconnected and there is no Northern Leasing listed in Addison, Texas. Thankfully the guy had to sign for the machine thru Fed Ex to receive the machine. These people call me every month if I am one day late. Now I'm rude back. I refuse to pay what they bill me and only send them the amount that is on my contract. How do I get out of this without them attacking my credit? Anyone else in this same boat...same stoy?
This company came to my place of business offering a lower rate on credit card processes and to provide a point of sale system (POS). At the time, the salesman seemed very trustworthy and instead of reading the contract thoroughly, he made sure I received the short and sweet version to understand what all the fine line states. It seemed reasonable, so I agreed to the lease.
When agreeing and signing the contract, the salesman would not give an immediate copy, nor allow me to make a copy with my available copier. Instead, he came back 3 days later with a copy, which was not the original contract that was signed. When approached of the observation, he stated that the other documents weren't important. Again, I felt the salesman was quiet trustworthy.
After using that service paying $230 a month for 2 1/2 years to lease the system, plus unusual fees throughout the duration, I sold my restaurant and cancelled the lease. This company continued to debit money from my account and when confronted, they explained that I still owe them 2 1/2 years more of service and that the contract is non cancelable. They sent me a copy of the lease agreement and that's when I noticed that the signatures on each page were not from me.
The company tried taking somewhere around $6,500 from my account, but I was able to reverse the transactions with my bank. They tried again, so I had to reverse the transactions once again and then closed my business bank account.
Now, almost 2 years since I've had a business, Northern Leasing has managed to file a judgement with the state of New York, although I live in Alaska. The judgement aloud them to take the $6,500 plus an addtional $6,500 since the state of New York law says that the winner of a judgement receives 200% of said judgement to assist with any occurred fees throughout the process.
So far I have filed with the Attorney General's office of New York and the A.G. of Alaska for Consumer Fraud. I also have 2 lawyers working on this case. I am using the recent lawsuit won by New York A.G. to assist with my case, since the filing of that lawsuit falls in with my situation. One of the statements within the settlement is as follows:
"As part of the settlement, the companies agreed to fully refund the more than $3.6 million they drained from their customers’ accounts in the spring of 2011.They also agreed to refrain from any efforts to collect the remaining approximately $7 million from customers targeted in the scheme – in some cases, up to 11 years after their victims’ equipment leases had expired. The companies are required to make automatic refunds to certain former customers and there will be a claims process for all other customers. Each customer participating in the settlement will receive 100% of the amount debited."
Also, the attorney that the bank says has a judgement against my account is Joseph Sussman, which has the same address as Northern Leasing. Imagine that! Just look his name up and see what results you get about this attorney.
Hope this helps others when trying to fight against this fraudulent company. They need to be stopped and I will invest all I have to ensure this company does not screw me over.
Like everybody else who got ripped of by MBF, I was on the hook for 5years. Now that my contract is up, I called the number to return the leased equipment. I got a run around for 1 hour 30 mins until I got to the same person who initiated the phone call transfer, and was told that I would have to send a letter of intent first.
I have never seen this kind of company. They're the worst. I think we, small store retailers, should initiate another a class-lawsuit on this company.
I was a brand new business with no experience. The company sent me a lease that only a lawter could understand. My office lease is for 3 years and I was told that was the length of the machine lease as well. It wasn't, the lease was for 4 years. They did not explain that I cannot get out of this "lease" ever, which is not the legal way a lease works. I canceled the cc company I was using and went with a local company before I called Northern Leasing. Then I called Northern Leasing to ask them to cancel my lease. The customer service rep I spoke to was horrible and rude to me. He said I cannot get out of my lease no matter what and ended up hanging up on me. When I called back to get their address to send back my machine the next customer service rep hung up on me as well. In the end this company was charging me thousands of dollars for a $200 credit card machine. I sent the machine back and closed my bank account. They now call and harass me three to five times a day. Today I got an invoice in the mail (I owe for one month) saying I owe for 3 months of unpaid monthlies. I no longer have the machine and I can't get rid of these horrible people.
I unfortunatly signed a lease with future technologies for credit card processing . I never saw the contract until 2 weeks later and never saw the name northern leasing until i got the contract.. it was sold to me on an ipad making false claims and saying it can be cancelled. I started getting worried when i finally read it and realized what trouble i was in. I started researching and realized it was a scam. I contacted the attorney general immediatly to only find out i am really screwed. I don't know what to do I have gotten a ton of calls and letters from them. I called them today offering a deal to get out of the contract, I gave them my customer info and was immedialty given to the collection department and before i could speak a man started threatening me with lawsuits and saying they have all my info. (whatever that means)He said the attorney general is the only one who could get me out of this. I can hire a lawyer but was advised by this thug that they have to be from nyc. Don't know if these are empty threats or do i have to bite the bullet and hire a lawyer! What a nightmare!!!!! No one has meantioned the salesmen, they are trained to sell this , I was thinking I should sue him for the money they claim i owe.any help is appreciated!!!!
Like the other 4,857,414 others on here I too was scammed by MBF Leasing / Nothern Leasing Systems.
They used the greatest saleman in the world and I smiled as I signed the paperwork. Loooong Story short I was Scammed for THOUSANDS of $$$$ and they got away with with it.. I'm a small business owner and the HURTS America. This "Company" and ALL of it's employes's should rot in hell. Next time instead of objects flying into the twin tower complex maybe someone should aim for these A$$Holes!
Moral of the story with these guys is DO NOT do business with them and what ever you do DON"T SIGN ANYTHING!!!!!!
Northern Leasing Systems, Inc. Reviews
Last year a received a letter in the mail from Northern Leasing looking for payment on Leasing equipment. I dont have any Business and the info did not make sense. I called them and they put me through the fraud department and told me someone made a lease under my name. they faxed a copy of the lease agreement over 3 thousand worth and told to fill the afedaved, make three signatures and proveided copy of personal ID and they would take care of it. I contacted the police they told me try to resolve it. i gave them a copy of my drivers license library card and signed it and got my lawer to stamp it.
The kept calling for more Identification, i contacted the police again they realized that they are the ones doing the fraud and advice me not to give them any information because they could use it to cause more problems. The Lease agreement only has my name, address and birth date correct. part of Social Insurance number is wrong, bank info is wrong signature is wrong. So i told them many times i will not give u any more info. But every month they call, and i made two big mistake give them information they dont have and give them my work number. I did file a police report last year, i provided police info for them, but officer told me not give them the police report as it has all my personal info. He also told me they can request the police report. I told them and they said our policy doesn't allows to do that. I suggested u know where i am i will meet someone to show id or go to a lawer and show proof of ID. They don't want that they want your personal information. I will be seeing a lawer tomorrow. Mario
My problem is actually with the Canadian Part of this company. More than 2 years ago I stopped using the chaep POS equipment supplied after 4 machines broke in rapid succession; one did not even work out of the box. I refused to accept the last delivery of the equipment and asked that the contract be terminated, even offering a settlement. Instead they chose to ignore my request and bill for services and eqipment not actually supplied for 2+ years, taking money from the commercial bank account of my store. The store itself ceased operation in February 2014, and despite the fact they could not figure out how to terminate a contract thay were able to figure out my home address and now are trying to get me to continue paying for equipment and services not provided. 2 years ago they had a chance to work things out, instead the tokk over $1000.00 for nothing, and now these merchants of greed expect more money. Not from me, and i see by other reports a class action suit may be pending. Count me in.
Beware thieves and his affiliates Senorpay La 819 w. Whittier Blvd Montebello Ca 90640. Maid me initial some paper By Jorge Almestap, which I replied I wasn't interested at this time with credit card machine, next day he showed up with one telling me that he was around the area, that I could check it out,he left and never came back,three months later money missing from my account, talk to branch manager,found the link to senorpay, called them explained to supervisor, wich replied, Jorge it's no longer employee of us, also asked for missing monies, answers were not collecting probably affiliated company Northern leasing systems Inc. Which got contacted from the branch management, they replied they're not collecting from account.that so called contract was voided, two years later I received mail there is a judgment notice from New York city civil court, sended letter to supervisor for authenticity,didn't respond, need help, www. Dca.Lacounty.Gov ,federal government should get involved, to closed down once and for all, yelp d corporation 30000+ complaints...
This company is completely fraudulent and rude to boot. I was approached in Sept, 2013 to reduce " the amount of charges billed to me by credit card companies" in my small business. They said the conversation was being "recorded". The person I spoke with was very friendly and cordial...in the beginning. I received a couple pages to fill out but she said she " already had all my info so just initial in the first highlighted spot and sign in the second" All thru our conversation I repeatedly told them I would use their services but I DID NOT want to change processors. That I was very happy with my currentprocessor. They assured me nothing would change as far as my processor was concerned. They were merely a credit card service provider that contacted small business to make them aware that they could get lower rates and save tyhem money. They said I needed a new machine even tho I owned my current machine. They said my currant machine was obsolete and couldn't be reprogrammed with the new rates. The machine came in just a couple days and looked like it was a throw back to the dinosaur!! I complained that they had sent me old used equipment and a premium price. Then the nastiness started. Got my first bank dstatement and found that my processing had changed to another company and the "new rates and charges" were alot higher. I immediately called the new processor and asked them where they got authorization to take over my account. They said i had signed a lease with them. I tolf them I had not so they faxed over a copy of Northern Leasings agreement....all filled out I might add...the paper that I only had to initial and sign...yep..the girl (Sara) filled it out.. They highlighted the top of the agreement. Northern leasing sent me a Merchants Agreement and told me it was their contract. So in intialling and signing I had inadvertantly signed an agreement to a new processor. I had asked the rep about the header and she blew it off saying that they were a Merchant Service Provider...providing rates and savings for small businesses. I again reiterated the fact that they were not changing my processor and she again assured me..NO. Upon receiving my first bill at the wrong amount by 20$ for the machine and seeing my first statement from the bank I called Northern Leasing. Hmmm...the girl I had spoke with had been moved to another part of the company...no longer available to me. I was given over after several phone calls to Mr. Sherman. I feel I only recieved a call from him because I stopped them from withdrawing from my bank account. What a gem this guy is!! I explained all the fraud to him and ask to cancel. He said I signed an agreement and they would sue me. I told them all of the conversations had been recorded and would back up what I was saying...hmmmnot to be found!! I said I was returning the credit card machine because they had lied and the machine was older then the one I already owned. Mr. Sherman said I could not return the machine and if I didn't stick to the agreement I would have to pay 3,000$ for the machine. I returned it to the person who sent it to me at Northern Leasing in Addison, Tx and still have the FedEx invoice to prove that. Mr Sherman said that was the wrong place to send it and to get it back or pay for the machine. I tried to get it back but they never returned it to me. I tried again to reach the place where I sent it and found that the number is disconnected and there is no Northern Leasing listed in Addison, Texas. Thankfully the guy had to sign for the machine thru Fed Ex to receive the machine. These people call me every month if I am one day late. Now I'm rude back. I refuse to pay what they bill me and only send them the amount that is on my contract. How do I get out of this without them attacking my credit? Anyone else in this same boat...same stoy?
This company came to my place of business offering a lower rate on credit card processes and to provide a point of sale system (POS). At the time, the salesman seemed very trustworthy and instead of reading the contract thoroughly, he made sure I received the short and sweet version to understand what all the fine line states. It seemed reasonable, so I agreed to the lease.
When agreeing and signing the contract, the salesman would not give an immediate copy, nor allow me to make a copy with my available copier. Instead, he came back 3 days later with a copy, which was not the original contract that was signed. When approached of the observation, he stated that the other documents weren't important. Again, I felt the salesman was quiet trustworthy.
After using that service paying $230 a month for 2 1/2 years to lease the system, plus unusual fees throughout the duration, I sold my restaurant and cancelled the lease. This company continued to debit money from my account and when confronted, they explained that I still owe them 2 1/2 years more of service and that the contract is non cancelable. They sent me a copy of the lease agreement and that's when I noticed that the signatures on each page were not from me.
The company tried taking somewhere around $6,500 from my account, but I was able to reverse the transactions with my bank. They tried again, so I had to reverse the transactions once again and then closed my business bank account.
Now, almost 2 years since I've had a business, Northern Leasing has managed to file a judgement with the state of New York, although I live in Alaska. The judgement aloud them to take the $6,500 plus an addtional $6,500 since the state of New York law says that the winner of a judgement receives 200% of said judgement to assist with any occurred fees throughout the process.
So far I have filed with the Attorney General's office of New York and the A.G. of Alaska for Consumer Fraud. I also have 2 lawyers working on this case. I am using the recent lawsuit won by New York A.G. to assist with my case, since the filing of that lawsuit falls in with my situation. One of the statements within the settlement is as follows:
"As part of the settlement, the companies agreed to fully refund the more than $3.6 million they drained from their customers’ accounts in the spring of 2011.They also agreed to refrain from any efforts to collect the remaining approximately $7 million from customers targeted in the scheme – in some cases, up to 11 years after their victims’ equipment leases had expired. The companies are required to make automatic refunds to certain former customers and there will be a claims process for all other customers. Each customer participating in the settlement will receive 100% of the amount debited."
Also, the attorney that the bank says has a judgement against my account is Joseph Sussman, which has the same address as Northern Leasing. Imagine that! Just look his name up and see what results you get about this attorney.
Hope this helps others when trying to fight against this fraudulent company. They need to be stopped and I will invest all I have to ensure this company does not screw me over.
Hi,
Like everybody else who got ripped of by MBF, I was on the hook for 5years. Now that my contract is up, I called the number to return the leased equipment. I got a run around for 1 hour 30 mins until I got to the same person who initiated the phone call transfer, and was told that I would have to send a letter of intent first.
I have never seen this kind of company. They're the worst. I think we, small store retailers, should initiate another a class-lawsuit on this company.
They have paid out to some customers like below:
http://www.cardpaymentoptions.com/credit-card-terminals/mbf-leasing/
But I am sure there are still alot more. I will keep you guys updated on my return process/experience.
Dave.
I was a brand new business with no experience. The company sent me a lease that only a lawter could understand. My office lease is for 3 years and I was told that was the length of the machine lease as well. It wasn't, the lease was for 4 years. They did not explain that I cannot get out of this "lease" ever, which is not the legal way a lease works. I canceled the cc company I was using and went with a local company before I called Northern Leasing. Then I called Northern Leasing to ask them to cancel my lease. The customer service rep I spoke to was horrible and rude to me. He said I cannot get out of my lease no matter what and ended up hanging up on me. When I called back to get their address to send back my machine the next customer service rep hung up on me as well. In the end this company was charging me thousands of dollars for a $200 credit card machine. I sent the machine back and closed my bank account. They now call and harass me three to five times a day. Today I got an invoice in the mail (I owe for one month) saying I owe for 3 months of unpaid monthlies. I no longer have the machine and I can't get rid of these horrible people.
I unfortunatly signed a lease with future technologies for credit card processing . I never saw the contract until 2 weeks later and never saw the name northern leasing until i got the contract.. it was sold to me on an ipad making false claims and saying it can be cancelled. I started getting worried when i finally read it and realized what trouble i was in. I started researching and realized it was a scam. I contacted the attorney general immediatly to only find out i am really screwed. I don't know what to do I have gotten a ton of calls and letters from them. I called them today offering a deal to get out of the contract, I gave them my customer info and was immedialty given to the collection department and before i could speak a man started threatening me with lawsuits and saying they have all my info. (whatever that means)He said the attorney general is the only one who could get me out of this. I can hire a lawyer but was advised by this thug that they have to be from nyc. Don't know if these are empty threats or do i have to bite the bullet and hire a lawyer! What a nightmare!!!!! No one has meantioned the salesmen, they are trained to sell this , I was thinking I should sue him for the money they claim i owe.any help is appreciated!!!!
Like the other 4,857,414 others on here I too was scammed by MBF Leasing / Nothern Leasing Systems.
They used the greatest saleman in the world and I smiled as I signed the paperwork. Loooong Story short I was Scammed for THOUSANDS of $$$$ and they got away with with it.. I'm a small business owner and the HURTS America. This "Company" and ALL of it's employes's should rot in hell. Next time instead of objects flying into the twin tower complex maybe someone should aim for these A$$Holes!
Moral of the story with these guys is DO NOT do business with them and what ever you do DON"T SIGN ANYTHING!!!!!!