Chris or Christopher Lang claims he is a business man who is under contract with the Canadian Armed Forces to do secret work. He claims that he works with several celebrities and celebrity business owners to develop business porjects. He assures people that they will be more rich than what they know they can do with it.
He claims that he has all of the connections and distribution channels in place to make all of your projects work. He had me and a group of people working for over one year on a few projects -from creating robots, to writing stories, to reading other people's work and discussing whether or not it was marketable.
All of the meetings took place in Montreal at Westmount Square, cafetaria eating space near the security desk -he claimed that disgruntled ex-members were out to get him and anyone affiliated with him (e.g. his group), but that we were safe since we were next to security.
He said on numerous occasions that he was attacked by ex-members in the presence of other members from his groups. He showed up with bruises and scrapes at these meetings. He made it seem as if the work he was doing was so important that it was attracting jealous people who wanted to stop him from becoming rich.
He played the role of the victim and martyr. He claimed that he is a good samaratin that is trying to make a difference in people's lives. But as soon as you ask him for clarification on a project, he becomes irrate and hostile. He has no clue what is happening in the project -he makes sure that you keep busy.
I know people who have "worked" for him for three to over five years. He wastes people's time and deceives them that they are working towards something. The sad truth is that he will harass people out of the groups and projects once you get close to completing it. Because he has no way of delivering what he promised, so he needs people to leave. He will either create animosity by spreading rumours about mental illnesses (I know of eight people he's claimed that they had illnesses), that they are violent, or are (according to him "disgustingly faggots"). He is anti-gay, unprofessional and a liar.
I signed a contract, what I thought was a legitimate contract, only to realize it was fake since it never had the names of the projects I was working on. He used intimidation -saying that he would sue me, that if I tried to write for anyone else that that would contravene the contract. He would become angry and yell, accusing me that I was not his friend and that I had no credibility or real business values.
He used to have a website and a forum where people had to post their work in and edit other people's work (it was at pkpublishing.net). But I recently checked it and it is not advertising the Pen and Keyboard website anymore.
He knows nothing about publishing and the book industry. Do your due diligence and stay away from this liar and harassor. He is the one who is probably mentally ill and gay.
To this date, he has published NO ONE. He has no specifics on how a book or article can be published because he exploits people's hopes. He only reassures you that yes he can do it, but he cannot provide any proof that he has done so. No book titles, no movies titles, no cartoons, no robotics, no computer programs, no websites, no referrals, no credits, no nothing. He is a scam.
He's really good at befriending people, but terrible at being a liar. He lies to so many people who joins his groups it is amazing why he has not been shut down by meetup.com and taken up as a story by any local media.
He said he was in a meeting with James Cameron -working on a project for space exploration. Really? Telling us this in a mall cafeteria? Or that he is working with a Frank L. Baum Wizard of Oz Family Estate, working with The Alice in Wonderland Estate, claims he has the rights to old movie scripts and old books, working with the BBC producers, Asian television markets. I doubt it. If he had any credibility, there would be some credit somewhere. But he has no online verification. HELLO: EVERYONE has the right because they are all in the public domain. WAKE UP!!! You don't need a contract for that.
He uses several aliases such as Chris Pang, Chris Lang, iisdaman, the facilitator, Carsten, Raymond, vondoors.
He runs several meetup.com groups (listed below) and thrives off of people's free labour for years. He has not published anyone's work. I suspect he is selling then online. He has hundreds of members. Thousands. But no results. With an attitude like that, he only has a quitters who wants to get away from him.
He claims he will not take your money. He claims he is here to protect your rights. He claims he is a publisher. Bull. He claims he is an inventor, a philanthropist, a programmer, an entrepreneur. This guy thinks he's Richard Branson.
Meetup.com deleted a new group that lasted about 4 days for people who want to learn the meaning of life, how to become immortal and learn the real true teachings of the creator, which these teachings are embedded in the universe, not a religious book. Their message to me was...
"Meetup is not in a position to verify the claims you've posted in the context of your group."
As a result, this group has been closed and taken off of Meetup."
That's called censorship and a violation of free speech, considering the fact that they allow Christian groups to gather but not people who reject christianity for the truth, which is that the universe contains the teachings of the creator, the true word of god. In my "context" which is the about section of the meetup group I wrote...
"The Teachings Of The Creator
To give you an understanding of what I mean by the teachings of the creator, I'll give you an example.
When you are born, you have no idea that you are a human being with arms, legs, eyes, and a beating heart. You have no idea of the potential of the human body or how it can do what it does. You have no comprehension at all as to how your parents can do what they do nor do you have an understand of the language that they speak. As your human experience is as a newborn with your parents, so is your soul in relation to god. How did you grow up as a physical child is identical as to how to grow up as a soul. And so your physical body and it's memories that are written upon your heart, which is where your memories are at, are the true living teachings of the creator and they exist as pure, unaltered demonstrations of truth. You just didn't know that. If god, a being that created all things, is going to have children it is going to take an entire universe to teach them and grow up. Once you recognize that your physical body's purpose exists as a teaching about your soul then you can begin to grasp what it means to become born again as a true child of the creator. There are many teachings in the body and the family, in the planet (plants, water, atmosphere), space, stars, gravity, light, galaxies, etc... They are all teachings - demonstrations of absolute truth."
Verification?
Do you verify that a person can play a guitar if they want to get together with other guitar players? Do you verify that a chef can cook what they cook to "allow" them to have a meetup group? If someone tells a story do you have to have proof of that story before you can approve of their group? Why does meetup.com have to verify anything? Your bogus claim of not being to "verify" anything is a clear excuse to cover up discrimination but it's more believable that meetup.com is engaged in social engineering via censorship. My group was on there for about four days. No one complained. No one was hurt. Nothing bad happened and my beliefs and story is banned from meetup.com.
All I did was tell the truth and want to do to good in the and had a way to do it and Meetup.com does not approve, apparently. There was no violations of their community rules or their terms of service.
So the ripoff? I'm guilty of something without any evidence and that is just an excuse for censorship and discrimination. To hide that behind an abscure and non-discriptive explanation is an act of cowardice and so if you have a legitimate reason, do tell here.
Company set up an account without proper autorization or confirmation. When it was discovered two payments of $72 had been withdrawn from the account. When a log in attempt was made using multiple business addresses and personal addresses, a log in attempt could not be completted. When a personal email address finally had a hit, the passwords associated with that email did not open the account. A Reset Password request was sent but was never received.
The only way to contact this company for resolution is through an online contact us form. I received a general response that can take up to 36 to respond. Well isn't that convinient?
Finally received a response from a representative who also said my account couldn't be located based on the list of 5-10 email addresses that I sent. She had to resort to finidng my account via my payment method.
They refused to provide information on when the account was set up, who set it up, if any other charges had been made etc. Then finally they said they sent an email with that information to the email that was used to set up the account. I didn't get the email. So I sent another requesting DEMANDING for the info. I didn't receive it for another HOUR! I still don't know if my personal email was really the email used to set up the account.
In that email they finally admitted that it was a 2nd charge of $72 made in September of 2014. I requested a refund for both amounts. They refused beecause "it had been more than 30 days..."
OF COURSE! I couldn't even log in! How the hell would I know about an account, if I can't even FIND it based on my email addresses??? I would have no idea. Thank God I noticed the charges coming out of my account or they probably would have just kept charging me for an account that was never even used or accessed!
I was an organizer of a few groups for a few years and hosted around 100 events with 95% having great reviews. When a few female members who were psychotically jealous of me because they were desperate cougars and the men were attracted to me and not them decided to start ruining my events meetup kicked me off the site (claiming that I was barred for life). After what I went through dealing with the mentally unstable and desperate people of New York City that are a part of meetup (had to call the police twice, strangers started yelling for no reason at events, adults over-drinking and puking on others, stalkers, people not paying for their meals, really sleazy and creepy men, etc. etc. you wouldn't believe what I've witnessed) there's NO WAY IN HELL that I would ever want to be a part of this site ever again. Not one employee at meetup ever asked for my side of the story- what a horrible business with extremely poor customer support. Back in the day... crazy people like this were sent to lunatic asylums... now they all belong to meetup.com.
Snake oil salesmanship. This group preys on the unsuspecting and vulnerable with their dog and pony show. Claims that you will be "investigating with the cast of the rip hunters tv show and movie". Untrue and false advertising. Will go to any measures to get people's money and lead them on with false beliefs. Steer clear of these masters of manipulation!
Meetup, Inc. Reviews
Chris or Christopher Lang claims he is a business man who is under contract with the Canadian Armed Forces to do secret work. He claims that he works with several celebrities and celebrity business owners to develop business porjects. He assures people that they will be more rich than what they know they can do with it.
He claims that he has all of the connections and distribution channels in place to make all of your projects work. He had me and a group of people working for over one year on a few projects -from creating robots, to writing stories, to reading other people's work and discussing whether or not it was marketable.
All of the meetings took place in Montreal at Westmount Square, cafetaria eating space near the security desk -he claimed that disgruntled ex-members were out to get him and anyone affiliated with him (e.g. his group), but that we were safe since we were next to security.
He said on numerous occasions that he was attacked by ex-members in the presence of other members from his groups. He showed up with bruises and scrapes at these meetings. He made it seem as if the work he was doing was so important that it was attracting jealous people who wanted to stop him from becoming rich.
He played the role of the victim and martyr. He claimed that he is a good samaratin that is trying to make a difference in people's lives. But as soon as you ask him for clarification on a project, he becomes irrate and hostile. He has no clue what is happening in the project -he makes sure that you keep busy.
I know people who have "worked" for him for three to over five years. He wastes people's time and deceives them that they are working towards something. The sad truth is that he will harass people out of the groups and projects once you get close to completing it. Because he has no way of delivering what he promised, so he needs people to leave. He will either create animosity by spreading rumours about mental illnesses (I know of eight people he's claimed that they had illnesses), that they are violent, or are (according to him "disgustingly faggots"). He is anti-gay, unprofessional and a liar.
I signed a contract, what I thought was a legitimate contract, only to realize it was fake since it never had the names of the projects I was working on. He used intimidation -saying that he would sue me, that if I tried to write for anyone else that that would contravene the contract. He would become angry and yell, accusing me that I was not his friend and that I had no credibility or real business values.
He used to have a website and a forum where people had to post their work in and edit other people's work (it was at pkpublishing.net). But I recently checked it and it is not advertising the Pen and Keyboard website anymore.
He knows nothing about publishing and the book industry. Do your due diligence and stay away from this liar and harassor. He is the one who is probably mentally ill and gay.
To this date, he has published NO ONE. He has no specifics on how a book or article can be published because he exploits people's hopes. He only reassures you that yes he can do it, but he cannot provide any proof that he has done so. No book titles, no movies titles, no cartoons, no robotics, no computer programs, no websites, no referrals, no credits, no nothing. He is a scam.
He's really good at befriending people, but terrible at being a liar. He lies to so many people who joins his groups it is amazing why he has not been shut down by meetup.com and taken up as a story by any local media.
He said he was in a meeting with James Cameron -working on a project for space exploration. Really? Telling us this in a mall cafeteria? Or that he is working with a Frank L. Baum Wizard of Oz Family Estate, working with The Alice in Wonderland Estate, claims he has the rights to old movie scripts and old books, working with the BBC producers, Asian television markets. I doubt it. If he had any credibility, there would be some credit somewhere. But he has no online verification. HELLO: EVERYONE has the right because they are all in the public domain. WAKE UP!!! You don't need a contract for that.
He uses several aliases such as Chris Pang, Chris Lang, iisdaman, the facilitator, Carsten, Raymond, vondoors.
He runs several meetup.com groups (listed below) and thrives off of people's free labour for years. He has not published anyone's work. I suspect he is selling then online. He has hundreds of members. Thousands. But no results. With an attitude like that, he only has a quitters who wants to get away from him.
He claims he will not take your money. He claims he is here to protect your rights. He claims he is a publisher. Bull. He claims he is an inventor, a philanthropist, a programmer, an entrepreneur. This guy thinks he's Richard Branson.
Meetup.com deleted a new group that lasted about 4 days for people who want to learn the meaning of life, how to become immortal and learn the real true teachings of the creator, which these teachings are embedded in the universe, not a religious book. Their message to me was...
"Meetup is not in a position to verify the claims you've posted in the context of your group."
As a result, this group has been closed and taken off of Meetup."
That's called censorship and a violation of free speech, considering the fact that they allow Christian groups to gather but not people who reject christianity for the truth, which is that the universe contains the teachings of the creator, the true word of god. In my "context" which is the about section of the meetup group I wrote...
"The Teachings Of The Creator
To give you an understanding of what I mean by the teachings of the creator, I'll give you an example.
When you are born, you have no idea that you are a human being with arms, legs, eyes, and a beating heart. You have no idea of the potential of the human body or how it can do what it does. You have no comprehension at all as to how your parents can do what they do nor do you have an understand of the language that they speak. As your human experience is as a newborn with your parents, so is your soul in relation to god. How did you grow up as a physical child is identical as to how to grow up as a soul. And so your physical body and it's memories that are written upon your heart, which is where your memories are at, are the true living teachings of the creator and they exist as pure, unaltered demonstrations of truth. You just didn't know that. If god, a being that created all things, is going to have children it is going to take an entire universe to teach them and grow up. Once you recognize that your physical body's purpose exists as a teaching about your soul then you can begin to grasp what it means to become born again as a true child of the creator. There are many teachings in the body and the family, in the planet (plants, water, atmosphere), space, stars, gravity, light, galaxies, etc... They are all teachings - demonstrations of absolute truth."
Verification?
Do you verify that a person can play a guitar if they want to get together with other guitar players? Do you verify that a chef can cook what they cook to "allow" them to have a meetup group? If someone tells a story do you have to have proof of that story before you can approve of their group? Why does meetup.com have to verify anything? Your bogus claim of not being to "verify" anything is a clear excuse to cover up discrimination but it's more believable that meetup.com is engaged in social engineering via censorship. My group was on there for about four days. No one complained. No one was hurt. Nothing bad happened and my beliefs and story is banned from meetup.com.
All I did was tell the truth and want to do to good in the and had a way to do it and Meetup.com does not approve, apparently. There was no violations of their community rules or their terms of service.
So the ripoff? I'm guilty of something without any evidence and that is just an excuse for censorship and discrimination. To hide that behind an abscure and non-discriptive explanation is an act of cowardice and so if you have a legitimate reason, do tell here.
Company set up an account without proper autorization or confirmation. When it was discovered two payments of $72 had been withdrawn from the account. When a log in attempt was made using multiple business addresses and personal addresses, a log in attempt could not be completted. When a personal email address finally had a hit, the passwords associated with that email did not open the account. A Reset Password request was sent but was never received.
The only way to contact this company for resolution is through an online contact us form. I received a general response that can take up to 36 to respond. Well isn't that convinient?
Finally received a response from a representative who also said my account couldn't be located based on the list of 5-10 email addresses that I sent. She had to resort to finidng my account via my payment method.
They refused to provide information on when the account was set up, who set it up, if any other charges had been made etc. Then finally they said they sent an email with that information to the email that was used to set up the account. I didn't get the email. So I sent another requesting DEMANDING for the info. I didn't receive it for another HOUR! I still don't know if my personal email was really the email used to set up the account.
In that email they finally admitted that it was a 2nd charge of $72 made in September of 2014. I requested a refund for both amounts. They refused beecause "it had been more than 30 days..."
OF COURSE! I couldn't even log in! How the hell would I know about an account, if I can't even FIND it based on my email addresses??? I would have no idea. Thank God I noticed the charges coming out of my account or they probably would have just kept charging me for an account that was never even used or accessed!
I was an organizer of a few groups for a few years and hosted around 100 events with 95% having great reviews. When a few female members who were psychotically jealous of me because they were desperate cougars and the men were attracted to me and not them decided to start ruining my events meetup kicked me off the site (claiming that I was barred for life). After what I went through dealing with the mentally unstable and desperate people of New York City that are a part of meetup (had to call the police twice, strangers started yelling for no reason at events, adults over-drinking and puking on others, stalkers, people not paying for their meals, really sleazy and creepy men, etc. etc. you wouldn't believe what I've witnessed) there's NO WAY IN HELL that I would ever want to be a part of this site ever again. Not one employee at meetup ever asked for my side of the story- what a horrible business with extremely poor customer support. Back in the day... crazy people like this were sent to lunatic asylums... now they all belong to meetup.com.
Snake oil salesmanship. This group preys on the unsuspecting and vulnerable with their dog and pony show. Claims that you will be "investigating with the cast of the rip hunters tv show and movie". Untrue and false advertising. Will go to any measures to get people's money and lead them on with false beliefs. Steer clear of these masters of manipulation!